Thursday, February 11, 2010

John Freshwater

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352207,00.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25585916/

Here is a textbook example of Christian immorality and just plain weirdness. A man named John Freshwater taught science in a public school, well, sort of. We were paying him to teach science, but instead, he taught creationism (unconstitutional) and burned crosses onto student's arms (no I'm not kidding). Even after his superiors knew about his illegal and strange behavior, nothing was done. It wasn't until years later that reality caught up with Freshwater, and he was fired.

Of course the sheeple of god defended his actions, claiming "freedom of religion"; these people clearly have not read one fucking bit about religious freedoms in relation to the state -- big surprise I know. It seems to me these clowns that rose to the defense of a possibly deranged criminal should at least bother to know what they are talking about before commenting, but that isn't the case. Religion often teaches it's victims that they don't have to know the facts, they just need their faith. The constitution doesn't matter, only God's law does. You don't have to be informed on a subject to pass judgment on it, you only have to have an opinion on it -- this is what makes rationalists criticize them, this is why they are laughed at. I don't give a shit about Joe Christian's opinion on the Separation of Church and State, I care about facts, our founding documents, and reality. If I wanted Joe Christian's opinion I would simply ask the person that gave them to him; his religious leader(s).

Some Christians love to push their beliefs onto others, they will even break the law to do it. They expect that people should allow them to bend, or just plain break laws to proselytize, or push their views onto others in a totalitarian way (using the state and taxpayer money to carry it out). Sorry brother Freshwater, there are rules here in America, and you liking them is not a prerequisite of compliance. We have a secular democracy, if that's too much freedom for you, or you can't bring yourself to play by the rules, move to a faith based society, like North Korea.

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4 comments:

Sam Stickle (mountvernon1805) said...

Parabola wrote: “A man named John Freshwater taught science in a public school, well, sort of. We were paying him to teach science, but instead, he taught creationism (unconstitutional) and burned crosses onto student's arms (no I'm not kidding)."

Freshwater has denied burning students. Take for example the statement he made to the Mount Vernon Board of Education on August 4, 2008: "I have never, never, branded or burned a person." (Source, YouTube video. )

Freshwater has stated that he did not teach creationism or intelligent design.

Parabola wrote, “It wasn't until years later that reality caught up with Freshwater, and he was fired.”

Freshwater hasn’t been fired—he is currently suspended without pay.

Parabola said...

Unfortunately Freshwater has admitted to burning children, so it seems he has told us two incompatible stories:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/20/education/20teacher.html

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/10/28/Freshwater28.html

Independent sources, as well as personal testimony from students and fellow teachers alike have confirmed the accusations of teaching creationism:

http://www.mountvernonnews.com/local/08/06/20/freshwater_upd.php4

We are left to a very easy decision; take the side of a self admitted law breaking teacher, or go where the evidence leads us.

As for him being fired, if your bosses vote 5-0 to boot you, you are fired. What he's doing is simply spending large amounts of taxpayer money to recover the job he was unanimously voted out of.

Sam Stickle (mountvernon1805) said...

Parabola said "Unfortunately Freshwater has admitted to burning children, so it seems he has told us two incompatible stories"

When has Freshwater admitted that?

Parabola said "Independent sources, as well as personal testimony from students and fellow teachers alike have confirmed the accusations of teaching creationism"

Freshwater is contesting the allegation regarding teaching creationism.

Which teachers are you referencing as having confirmed that Freshwater taught creationism? (You provided a link to an old article about the HROC report—but do you have names of teachers who have testified to that matter in the hearing? I’d be interested.)

Parabola said...

When has Freshwater admitted that?

It has been covered in the media, here is another link if you didn't like the first one:

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/20/crimesider/entry6120032.shtml

I'm sure that Freshwater has denied allegations of teaching illegal nonsense in schools, what matters is that he was found to be doing the very thing he is denying, by independent investigation. Again, I choose to take the word of a deranged, child abusing, law-breaking, taxpayer money wasting, personal agenda driven activist with a grain of salt.

Gathering the names of the people that corroborate the evidence against Freshwater is something I leave to the investigators and those involved with the case on a professional level.

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